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Old 08-26-2010, 09:04 PM   #1
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Default New balance update: First pass to summons and more tweaks (Stage 10)

hello everyone here goes:

Re-designed Summon tree

We always wanted summons to be different than just pets. At last we had the time to tackle this issue.

There are three premises behind this new concept
  1. Summons should be cast during combat to change the tide of battle (not as a pet)
  2. Summons should be different
  3. All summons are usable at level 50.

I’m not going to take the time to explain all changes because they are not final but take a look if you want.
Damage, graphics, cooldowns, mana, etc have NOT BEEN ADJUSTED YET.

Spells:
  • Beast Wrath: reduced damage bonus to 5% to 25% from level 1 to 5.
  • Army of One: Maná reduced to 220-300 from level 1 to 5. Cooldown reduced to 50 seconds.
  • Unstoppable Madness: Duration reduced to 10 seconds in all levels. New resistance added: cannot attack.
    Resistance levels adjusted to 40% to 90% from level 1 to 5. Maná reduced to 220-300. Cooldown reduced to 40 seconds.
    Please don’t say that this is not good enough to cover the distance, Barbarians can run around 50 mts in 10 seconds (and that is without spring)
  • Denfensive and Ofensive Stance: Mana cost removed completely. Cooldown reduced to 10 seconds. Global Cooldown changed to very short.
    (We are analyzing if we make the duration of this skills infinite.)
  • Winter Stroke: increased range to 35m.
  • Intimidate: casting time removed. Range is mow 12m.
  • BUG FIX: Now Rigorous preparation affects Miss Chance as it should.
  • BUG FIX: Damage reduction of hard creatures is working as intended now.
  • BUG FIX: Now Characters cannot Evade, Block or Resist when knocked down or stunned.
  • BUG FIX: Pets damage is now adjusted according to the owner’s level (for example a level 5 Zarkit from a level 37 Conjurer was doing damage as if the conjurer was level 50)
  • POSSIBLE BUG FIX: A couple of bugs fixes on the network code (thanks Enio for the video. please test again to see if we nailed these ones)

Today (friday the 27th) we added the following changes:

Summons: new zombies, new Golems and some damage have been adjusted (still preliminary)
Foresight: ranged increased to 10 to 20% from level 1 to 5
Parabolic shot: duration increased to 15-30 seconds. Range reduced 20 to 25%. (more range to marksmen less range to hunter)
BUG FIX: new network code fix for knockdowns (PLEASE TEST)
BUG FIX: attacking summons cannot be cast on another summon
BUG FIX: a bug was fixed that dispelled your pet when riding a horse

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Old 08-26-2010, 09:05 PM   #2
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Mmm.... Let's see
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:11 PM   #3
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Yes YES YES to everything, specially this:
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BUG FIX: Pets damage is now adjusted according to the owner’s level (for example a level 5 Zarkit from a level 37 Conjurer was doing damage as if the conjurer was level 50)
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:11 PM   #4
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Army of One: Maná reduced to 220-300 from level 1 to 5. Cooldown reduced to 50 seconds.

Unstoppable Madness: Duration reduced to 10 seconds in all levels. New resistance added: cannot attack.
Resistance levels adjusted to 40% to 90% from level 1 to 5. Maná reduced to 220-300. Cooldown reduced to 40 seconds.
Please don’t say that this is not good enough to cover the distance, Barbarians can run around 50 mts in 10 seconds (and that is without spring)
[*]Denfensive and Ofensive Stance: Mana cost removed completely. Cooldown reduced to 10 seconds. Global Cooldown changed to very short.
(We are analyzing if we make the duration of this skills infinite.)
[*]Intimidate: casting time removed. Range is mow 12m.
[*]BUG FIX: Now Characters cannot Evade, Block or Resist when knocked down or stunned.
FUCK YEAH!!!

<3 all changes above nicely done chilko + the balance team
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:16 PM   #5
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The changes sound real good to me
The UM change is ok, too (and I have to mention that my main character is a warlock!!!)

Some questions:

Are the durations of summons going to be changed?
Will the summons be redesigned?
Is it gonna be a complete change in the summon system?


It also would be nice to have some options when you are lvl50 as a conjurer (besides the Zarkit I mean...)

But sound real great to me nice work
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:16 PM   #6
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Can't wait to see how the summons turn out. Have to say the list looks pretty awesome at every point.
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:18 PM   #7
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Woot finally! Thanks for that push to Amun


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  • BUG FIX: Now Characters cannot Evade, Block or Resist when knocked down or stunned.
Will resistance and evade boosting Spells cease to have effect while being knocked?

I especially think about Escapist here, it will be very easy to counter just with a knock to get the full damage in and not just spells. If yes, it would basically make Escapist only useful in combination with SoW (to not get knocked) or when your out of range of knocking spells.

If yes, how about changing it so that the unbuffed resistances get substracted when being knocked (zero resistance when knocked unbuffed) instead of just set to zero? This would allow resistance&evade boosting active spells/passives to have still effect when being knocked, even if itll be weaker since the base resistances are substracted.
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:26 PM   #8
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just a question, i know ppl think i whine to much, but are there going to be positive tweaks for hunters, because i only keep seeying nerfs or other spells, and i have to say, for me, and prolly alot of the not "hardcore" or "overgeared" hunters, after the update, hunter will complete lose it function, besides trowing the occasinal debuff or trick in.
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:33 PM   #9
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nice! i like the changes.
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:41 PM   #10
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All these changes look great, except for this :

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BUG FIX: Now Characters cannot Evade, Block or Resist when knocked down or stunned.
This would have been OK if only the knocks couldn't chain/stack but THEY DO !
So what will have a barb to do to be sure 100% to kill someone ? Feint. If the target is still alive when feint duration is about to finish: Kick. Game over since the target won't ever have a chance to evade/resist.
No mention to the sultar chains. Actually you have a chance to resist a couple of sultars in a 4-6 chain, but with this new system, there will no longer be a chance. The targets who got hit by one Sultar will be knocked down again for sure, and will end that no one will resist it at final.
Another example : Ambush + Confuse. Now Confuse will have 100% chance to land, and it's sad knowing how crippling it is...

Sure it was annoying, but knock chains/stack are more. This new system will only bring more issues in my opinion and remove the suspense of the fights (it will be the 1st who knocks wins...).
So either remove knock stacks/chains, and/or reduce ALL knockdown spells duration, or bring back the old system that was not-so-bad afterall.

With this new fast gameplay (for warriors at least), knock spells are an overkill. You made it even worse now by removing resists/evades under knock.
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