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Old 12-04-2007, 02:26 AM   #11
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Barbs have a lot of Rps for Onslaught and Off with their heads!. They win a lot by dealing damage too, but they are so high because of the areas spells.
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:42 AM   #12
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I can't belive people are just now realsing the power of marksmen. Been known by me and slim long ago. BTW, you should see what damage you can do with lvl 5 death sentence, recharged arrows, lvl 50 slow bow, and lethal strike + some other spells
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Old 12-04-2007, 08:39 AM   #13
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It isnt really new that Marks can hit. im fed up with these Discussions. They are supposed to Deal Great damage and, when buffed Right they should be able to do so. maybe cut some Evasion or sth. i dont really use Evasion when im dealing High damage. All defenses i have is Low Profile and lvl1 Armorboost 40% so..
When playing an evasion-built you live longer but you cant afford aiming + arrows(which is musthave) and Longbow high which would be needed to do the real nice damages.
The number in my Signatures my record and im eager to see more high damage Screens only to give evrybody more stuff to Start whining.



BTW,Did you break the 3k already Refe? The pity is theres no way to get bufed in the Arena.. hwaa tell me
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Old 12-04-2007, 08:42 AM   #14
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It isnt really new that Marks can hit. im fed up with these Discussions. They are supposed to Deal Great damage and, when buffed Right they should be able to do so. maybe cut some Evasion or sth. i dont really use Evasion when im dealing High damage. All defenses i have is Low Profile and lvl1 Armorboost 40% so..
When playing an evasion-built you live longer but you cant afford aiming + arrows(which is musthave) and Longbow high which would be needed to do the real nice damages.
The number in my Signatures my record and im eager to see more high damage Screens only to give evrybody more stuff to Start whining.



BTW,Did you break the 3k already Refe? The pity is theres no way to get bufed in the Arena.. hwaa tell me
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:28 AM   #15
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Consider these:
What lvl are you?
What lvl was the marksman?
Have you been "death sentenced"?
Have you got some spell to protect you?
Have the marksman been buffed by himself?
Have the marksman been buffed by a conjurer?

then we can have a clear situation.
It's true a marksman hits hard, but what do you expect from an "attack" class?

OMG warlocks cast terror!!! They're overpowered!!!
OMG hunters become invisible everytime and I can't kill them!!! They're overpowered!!!

and so on...
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:04 AM   #16
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Consider these:
What lvl are you?
What lvl was the marksman?
Have you been "death sentenced"?
Have you got some spell to protect you?
Have the marksman been buffed by himself?
Have the marksman been buffed by a conjurer?

then we can have a clear situation.
It's true a marksman hits hard, but what do you expect from an "attack" class?

OMG warlocks cast terror!!! They're overpowered!!!
OMG hunters become invisible everytime and I can't kill them!!! They're overpowered!!!

and so on...
+1... it would be nice to remember that such marks often have a low level of evasion and/or not enough points to put in, meeting them at range 25 is their death sentence, especially for a warlock ; they're a very good target for soulkeeper and energy borrow

The problem with marks is low profile/son of the wind... they shoudn't have it available.
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:13 AM   #17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fean0r
Consider these:
What lvl are you?
What lvl was the marksman?
Have you been "death sentenced"?
Have you got some spell to protect you?
Have the marksman been buffed by himself?
Have the marksman been buffed by a conjurer?

then we can have a clear situation.
It's true a marksman hits hard, but what do you expect from an "attack" class?

OMG warlocks cast terror!!! They're overpowered!!!
OMG hunters become invisible everytime and I can't kill them!!! They're overpowered!!!

and so on...

dont exagerate.....

no one ever complained about that type of damage being delt by any class before

it is exessive when u consider they are doing that type of damage from the longest range in the game.......

and the poster of this thread is lvl 50, so was no lvl difference in the marks favor
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:21 AM   #18
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Bah and u can steal hp from your opponents and have most areas in the game...
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:50 PM   #19
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Bah and u can steal hp from your opponents and have most areas in the game...
Actually mages can't steal HP to a Marksman. Because marksmans spells are Range 0 and castintg time is around 0 to 1 seconds.

For Warlocks casting time is around 2 to 4 seconds. Even if warlock use Arcane Devotion have casting times of 1 second but on range 25.
Anyone knows when a mage is casting (mage's staff start to glow) so you can freeze/dizzy mages really easy.

Also look for Lighting arrow, the most powerful area ranged spell in the game or Proyectile rain, range 0, area 10, and 100% (it means +buffs) and 600 damage.

The marksman is an offensive class, so they should do damage but they have also very good defence.
What's the difference between the defence of a marksman and the defence of the hunter? 1 Spell (camouflage)

Warlocks have little defence, only 3 range 30 spell and longer castings times. Barbarians don't have range attacks (only 1 range 8). Also Marksman can Hit+Spell.

About the points, Marksman have enough to Evasion, Aiming mastery and Arrows mastery (that would be my config when I reach 50 I guess), and still have points left to use some Tricks or Long bow as he prefers.

I am trying to explain, shouldn't it be?
*Barbarians: Great damage, no range
*Mages: Very Good damage, medium range
*Marksman: Good damage, long range
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:10 PM   #20
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dont exagerate.....

it is exessive when u consider they are doing that type of damage from the longest range in the game.......
NO, they have range 25 to debuff the enemy. That is necesssary to deal high damage. And as I said: When you come to a mage in range of 25, cast death sentence, and need to wait 3,5 sec to cast lethal strike a warlock can easiely cast meteor on you, and then his other high damage spells.

The real problem I see is the very short time between debuffing enemy and cast high damage spells when you switch from fast to slow bow in mid fight.

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What's the difference between the defence of a marksman and the defence of the hunter? 1 Spell (camouflage)
Hunter can run, and they can let their pet attack you while they run, so they can attack to behind them

Also tracking is a defense, they know where hard enemies are, and so they can avoid going there.
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