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Old 12-13-2007, 06:34 PM   #31
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Look here again: http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...8&d=1196729045


That was about 1000dmg without death sentence on a knight, you were hit with about 1500dmg with death sentence (ranged dmg+50%) So you had luck that it was only 1500dmg since you are no knight.

Stop to start discussions about the same issue again and again, please!

Again, did YOU looked the dmg I, a Barbarian did on the hunter?
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:49 PM   #32
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1. The marks used recharged arrow for sure, it is a kind of buff on the marksman that you don't see

2. You cannot compare your damage with the marks damage:
a) from the picture I see you use not a slow weapon, the marks used a slow bow for sure
b) the hunter maybe had some protection buffs, like acrobatic and/or evasive tactics. That protects a lot!
c) the marks maybe had a very good armor against your damage typ and you a very bad armor against his dmg typ

3. Stop comparing classes only on there skills. You also should deliberate the amount of hp and mana, the different qualities of armor, the specific resist and evade chances of the class and the hit and spell rates of the classes.
Just showing a pic that shows high dmg is not a proof to say a class is over or underpowered.
Since RO is a teamplay in the first line I recommend to go hunt together with that class that is overpowerd in your opinion to have an advantage.
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:49 PM   #33
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Ask Galynn or Stooge that its easy to kill marksman if u know his weakness (tested in arena)
Hey, to say one thing (I cuted lots of parts of your blablabla muahaahah blablabla), Galynn and Stooge (I killed that poor today), are both mages, warlocks is Very easy to kill hunters, Barbarians not. Barbarians Dark Elf (like in my case) only have 1270 Mana. onslaught cost 400 mana. A simple dark magic destroys onslaught.
Oh god..Create a barbarian...(other guy said "create a hunter) but i alreayd created is easy to kill mobs with him)
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Other and last post: Nessa, I killed your big friend Saguenay today (I don't know if she is ur friend but if isn't no matter). She thinking she could kill me but poor girl the luck isn't always the everything and to you know...I had1000HP and she had all HP but with her thinking of "I will get all rps of this guy MAUAHAHAHAHA" she died
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:02 PM   #35
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Other and last post: Nessa, I killed your big friend Saguenay today (I don't know if she is ur friend but if isn't no matter). She thinking she could kill me but poor girl the luck isn't always the everything and to you know...I had1000HP and she had all HP but with her thinking of "I will get all rps of this guy MAUAHAHAHAHA" she died

At first you start a discussion that was already discussed not long ago, and when you loose all your arguments you go off topic
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:33 PM   #36
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hope u realize its spell that did additional dmg which is desribed here too:
http://www.regnumzg.com.ar/index.php...ass=12&buscar=
and u can see that he has 36% possibility to add 60% more dmg. but still he cant kill u in 2 hits. grats to that marksman, my lethal strike never made such good dmg. guess its because i sacrified dexterity for smthg else
ah yes, barbarian, for SPELL, South cross, u have 80% posibility to hit 100% of dmg u can make. Now, calculate or just look your screenie, and see that u have double normal dmg than archer. Now, use calculator: for 200 mana u get 125% dmg bonus plus on 80% for 100% additional bonus dmg, and add on it that your dmg is twice higher than his (its normal, u re barb), so that means: 225% dmgx2(normal dmg is bigger twice) for 200 mana. how much dmg is it? over 2k? that means u need 2 hits to kill him, like i expirienced in arena fighting with one barb ( i think it was arthur or smthg). http://www.regnumzg.com.ar/index.php...ass=18&buscar=

now, lethal strike: adds some dmg which may make like your normal dmg (adds 100-135), 100% on it bonus, and only 36% chance for aditional 60% (!!!!!!) dmg, and 281 mana. so that means: boosts his normal attack like yours and add 160% dmg with less chance (36% against 80%).

wanna calculate with real numbers? np, i ll receive soon dmg of some lvl 50 barb and calculate it. Ah already sent me. It says: lvl 49 barb, stats from char window: 800-912.
my dmg is 236-279, lets take for example, my maxx dmg, 279. now,

Lethal strike: 279+ 135(lets take again max)=414. then: 100%=828, then for 36% chance, 60% more: that 249 dmg=>1077. dmg boosted with recharged arrows will give higher result, your armor ressistance on type of arrow attack, and death sentence, its ok. and for serpent bite, u re aware that it s ok dmg since u were death sentenced (usual combo).

South cross: 912+ 1140(125%)=2052. and for 80% (!!!!!!!!!!) chance, u get another 912 (100%)=>2964 without any boost like archers have "recharged arrows". lets even say its 2k dmg in real as it is.
your hp: 3757, my hp with amulet/rings: 3022
u ll make dmg for 80% chance 2964 which means i ll stay on 58. lets include my armor, still its two hits like i said.
my dmg to u for 36% chance is 1077, lets include recharged and say its about 1200 for example, or 1300, u will left on 2680, its not even half of your hp, including maybe armor, lets say 2580. my next hit with 300 wont harm u at all. So, marksman is really overpowered for u poor barbs? oh, i m sorry we cant afford u to kill us in one hit.
cant u realise that warriors are often marksman's nightmare in open filed? especially those poor barbs with little dmg that can kill u in 2 hits! think a little pal
i ll check also with barb from my clan and few other players who are barbs, dmg from stat window.
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:36 PM   #37
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oh during gathering those info and calculating, i didnt see your posts, new ones. now its really clear that u re whiing because u re mad that some1 kicked your ass and hit u twice lower as u can. i guess it was very unpleasant surprise for u that marksman can hit more than 300 dmg (1k )
guess u can continue crying, i wont discuss with u anymore. i just hope u re adult to realise, not 12 years old kid.


ok EDIT: did YOU know that MARKSMAN or HUNTEr have PROTECTIVE spells that BOOST armor and make YOUR BARBARAIAn GLORIUS AWESOME HEAVEN dmg much less? try me, i m volonteer

and grats for killing them, at last u started battles in game, not forums. and since u know everything, i ll point u that u re wrong, mages are way easier than warrior at least for marksman. and sure, u knew that marksman has lethal strike, not hunter, right?

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Old 12-13-2007, 08:03 PM   #38
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At first you start a discussion that was already discussed not long ago, and when you loose all your arguments you go off topic
God..read first all post then say something..
I said that cuz Nessa said "NO 1on1" and sague was making 1on1 like all hunters do ..
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Old 12-13-2007, 08:03 PM   #39
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when i saw this in one thread, i started laughing sooo much:
I d like to add maybe to this list to give us little rocks as weapon instead of bows... nooo, bare hands only, but long hands so we can stay ranged.... Are u really aware what u have written??? What snipers? What machine guns? what the hell u re talking about?? Have u ever read on RO site what is marksman? And why only hunters should have those spells?
hope its just kidding or u re drunk, because if u really think that, i m ..... nvm, your post said enough.
Well, Anpu, i've been targetted by you some times, a hunter does only a bit less damage than you on normal hits on me (250-300/hit) A less evasive marksman, does something like 400-500 on me damage, without death sentence. It's nice to have many evasion, but wait for dispell magic to be modified, you'll see you gonna have fun to hit like a hunter chick with all your buff removed. Because you've dropped many points in evasion.

And why those spells should be only for hunters... same. That damn dispell and/or mind squasher. Soon camouflage will lost its supremacy with mass dispell change and probably its use, hunters needs some specific defensive stuff.

Currently the problematic with marks aren't their damage, but the fact they deal more damage than a knight because of their skills and can resist even more than them. And when we manage to deal some nice damage (we need about 3 warlocks to do that, with mana burn), then they run at a safe place with low profile or continue with SotW. Don't tell me that's wrong, even my hunter can do it

And why less powerful med speed bows... because with that change, marksmen would be more damage oriented, letting them with med speed bow like they're currently would be too powerful.

Look what you're supposed to be : http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...9&d=1197407015

And he has almost no evasion, only a very high dext. Time to fight like men !

(Edit) Oh, btw look : http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...2&postcount=72

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Old 12-13-2007, 08:08 PM   #40
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think u made a mistake in calculating south cross dmg.it does 125%wpn dmg thats about 1k+ 80%chance to hit for another 100%dmg there aint 2normal hits +125%dmg
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